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Valves that have to work
A shutoff you can't trust is worse than none, because you find out the day a pipe lets go. Here's how I work an old valve without breaking it, and how the makers say to set and service one.
Tip 1
Stuck gate valve? Crack the packing nut first.
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Back the packing nut off 1/4 to 1/2 turn. Work the valve. Then snug the nut back down.
Why. The packing squeezes the stem. Ease it, and your effort goes into the threads instead of fighting the packing.
The tell. Wheel keeps turning, water does not change? You dropped the gate. The stem spun out of the wedge.
That's straight off Crane's sheet for its bronze gate valves: if the handwheel is hard to turn, loosen the packing nut a quarter to a half turn, and retighten it once you're done opening and closing. The packing nut is the small nut right under the handwheel. Loosen it, counterclockwise, only that far. Don't reach for a cheater bar on the wheel. The wedge inside is screwed onto the stem, and forcing it is how a slow drip turns into no shutoff at all.
When to stop. Still stuck with the packing eased? Do not force it. That is a plumber, or the water utility for the curb stop.
Sources
- Crane, Bronze Gate Valves: Installation, Operation and Maintenance
- Plumber Magazine, Tips on Installing and Servicing Gate Valves
- This Old House, Adding Sink Shutoff Valves
Tip 2
Close an old gate slow. Never force it.
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Shut it slow and stop when it fights you. Got it to a trickle? Do the repair with it barely running.
Why. Scale can jam an old gate in its seat. The gate is screwed onto the stem, so cranking it back open strips the stem out.
The tell. You open it back up, the wheel turns, and the water never comes back. The wedge is stuck shut and the stem spun out of it.
Plumbers call it dropping a gate. Plumber Magazine lays it out: shut an old gate valve and the barnacles on the disc crunch into the housing and jam it. The stem is screwed into the wedge like a screw, so when you spin the handle to get the water back, the stem spins out and the wedge stays put. The valve gets replaced. Their advice matches mine: close it very slowly, never force it, and if the water barely flows, do the repair that way. Richard Trethewey said it on This Old House about a stuck main: if you can't move it, don't force it, because nothing stands between you and full city pressure.
When to stop. A main that resists gets left alone. Call a plumber, or the water utility to shut the curb stop.
If the shutoff is seized and water is already getting out, our sister site Vent, Valve & Volt has a list of when to call a plumber, and how fast.
Sources
- Plumber Magazine, Tips on Installing and Servicing Gate Valves
- This Old House, Adding Sink Shutoff Valves
Tip 3
Globe valve: arrow with the flow, pressure under the disc.
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Arrow on the body points with the flow, so the supply comes in under the disc. Close it snug, not cranked.
Why. Flow under the seat keeps line pressure below the disc when it is shut, off the bonnet and the packing.
The tell. No arrow you can read? Look into the inlet end. You should be looking at the underside of the seat.
A gate valve doesn't care which way it goes in; Crane's sheet says its standard gate valve takes flow either way. A globe valve cares. Apollo's sheet says the inlet end goes against line pressure, and Valves Online says it's built to take flow one direction only, under the disc. Wärtsilä's reference explains why: flow from below the seat keeps the upper chamber unpressurized when the valve is closed. When you shut it, bring the disc down on the seat and stop. Valves Online says if it still passes water, the seat may be damaged, and more wrench won't fix a bad seat. They also say don't leave it half open for long stretches; it wears the seat early.
When to stop. Backward globe valve soldered into the line? It gets cut out and turned around. Can't sweat pipe? That's a plumber.
Sources
- Valves Online, Globe Valve Installation and Maintenance Instructions
- Apollo Valves (Conbraco), Installation, Operation and Maintenance of Apollo Barstock Valves
- Wärtsilä Encyclopedia of Marine and Energy Technology, Globe valve
- Crane, Bronze Gate Valves: Installation, Operation and Maintenance
Tip 4
A weeping packing nut gets a nudge, not a crank.
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Snug the packing nut 1/8 to 1/4 turn and stop the moment the weep stops. Still weeping? Another 1/8 turn at a time. Crane's sheet says about 1/4 to 1/2 turn and Apollo's says quarter-turn steps; your valve's own sheet wins.
Why. The packing seals because the nut squeezes it around the stem. Once it seals, more turn only loads the nut and the body.
The tell. The mistake is cranking it as hard as it goes, which can crack the valve or crush the washer inside. The check is a dry paper towel around the stem after the water is back on, and again later that day.
Family Handyman's plumbing pro puts it plain: tighten until the drip stops, then a small nudge if needed, no more. Plumber Magazine says just snug it or the nut will crack. Some packing leaks only show after the line has been under pressure a while, so check it again before you call it done.
When to stop. Snugged and still leaking? The packing or its washer is shot. If you can't shut the water off ahead of that valve, leave the nut alone and call a plumber.
Sources
- Family Handyman, Leaky Shut-Off Valve? Here's How to Fix It
- Crane, Bronze Gate Valves: Installation, Operation and Maintenance
- Apollo Valves (Conbraco), Installation, Operation and Maintenance of Apollo Barstock Valves
- Plumber Magazine, Tips on Installing and Servicing Gate Valves
Tip 5
Repack a stem with the pressure off, a few winds at a time.
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Valve isolated and the pressure off. Wind PTFE packing rope around the stem under the nut, run the nut down until the packing is lightly compressed, and cycle the valve. Still weeps? Back the nut off and add a few more winds.
Why. The nut drives the rope down against the stem, and that squeeze is the seal. That's why you add it a little at a time and let the nut tell you when it's enough.
The tell. Loosen the nut and water spits out? It's still under pressure. Snug it back and find a shutoff ahead of it.
How much rope to start with depends on who you ask. Family Handyman starts with one wind and adds a few if it leaks. Millard Lumber says three complete wraps of string packing, hand tight, then another half turn. Apollo's sheet says tighten until the packing is lightly compressed, cycle the valve several times, then snug in quarter-turn steps if it weeps once it's back under pressure. You'll find a magazine piece that repacks a street valve with the water on. The valve makers say not to. The makers win.
When to stop. Crane and Apollo both say don't repack a valve under pressure and trust the backseat to hold. A main or street valve with nothing you can shut ahead of it is the utility's or a plumber's job.
Sources
- Family Handyman, How to Fix a Leaky Street Valve on Your Water Line
- Millard Lumber, How To: Faucet and Valve Repair
- Apollo Valves (Conbraco), Installation, Operation and Maintenance of Apollo Barstock Valves
- Crane, Bronze Gate Valves: Installation, Operation and Maintenance
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